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A quote from the thread regarding the movie Troy, over on Our Stargate:

"As far as I am concerned, that [the homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus] is all bs anyway. A flawed interpretation by politically correct scholars. Achilles is an honorable, tough, skilled, soldierly man - one might as well say Worf or Teal'c is a homosexual as say it of Achilles. To my view, that other perspective is the one that tries to change Achilles' friendship and comradeship with Patroclus into something it isn't and wasn't."

How art thou wrong, let me count the ways? ;)

P.S. This is not an invitation to come troll the poor schmuck. Let the regulars kick him around a little first!

ETA:
And there's more! ;)

"A warrior is unlikely to be what Achilles has been misrepresented as via misinterpretation of Homer. I'd opine Achilles and Patroclus were best friends and the semantic way a Greek writer such as Homer had of recording that has been misinterpreted by modern folks from a modern perspective."

Followed by ramblings about how Spartan society made homosexuality compulsory and how "Sparta stands as a historical lesson to the future and a reason not to encourage anything more than basic minimum tolerance as a minority demographic activity, while denying encouragement rather than this mere tolerance."

Yeah, right, whatever.

Date: 2004-05-23 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
Politically correct scholars like Aeschylus and his Myrmidons, eh?

Keep me informed of proceedings over on that thread, it might provide a little amusement.

Gina

Date: 2004-05-23 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
Has anyone pointed out yet that he automatically renders any argument of his null and void by mentioning the Nazis. Or does he not know the unspoken Nazi law of the debate? *grin*

Date: 2004-05-23 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temaris.livejournal.com
I continue to be bemused at the way people manage to convince themselves that because they were taught that the world was *this* way by their particular family and peer group, that is the way it has ever been so, yes and amen.

I suppose it saves them the trouble of independent thinking. They get their mental workouts doing gymnastics trying to prove that black really is white.

Hee!

Date: 2004-05-24 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cycnus39
Yeah, those fem Spartans might have missed Marathon because they were doing their hair but they must have thrown one hell of a hissy fit at Thermopolis. And I suppose Alexander the Great and Hephaestion were just REALLY good friends. Ah-huh.

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