A quote from the thread regarding the movie Troy, over on Our Stargate:
"As far as I am concerned, that [the homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus] is all bs anyway. A flawed interpretation by politically correct scholars. Achilles is an honorable, tough, skilled, soldierly man - one might as well say Worf or Teal'c is a homosexual as say it of Achilles. To my view, that other perspective is the one that tries to change Achilles' friendship and comradeship with Patroclus into something it isn't and wasn't."
How art thou wrong, let me count the ways? ;)
P.S. This is not an invitation to come troll the poor schmuck. Let the regulars kick him around a little first!
ETA:
And there's more! ;)
"A warrior is unlikely to be what Achilles has been misrepresented as via misinterpretation of Homer. I'd opine Achilles and Patroclus were best friends and the semantic way a Greek writer such as Homer had of recording that has been misinterpreted by modern folks from a modern perspective."
Followed by ramblings about how Spartan society made homosexuality compulsory and how "Sparta stands as a historical lesson to the future and a reason not to encourage anything more than basic minimum tolerance as a minority demographic activity, while denying encouragement rather than this mere tolerance."
Yeah, right, whatever.
"As far as I am concerned, that [the homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus] is all bs anyway. A flawed interpretation by politically correct scholars. Achilles is an honorable, tough, skilled, soldierly man - one might as well say Worf or Teal'c is a homosexual as say it of Achilles. To my view, that other perspective is the one that tries to change Achilles' friendship and comradeship with Patroclus into something it isn't and wasn't."
How art thou wrong, let me count the ways? ;)
P.S. This is not an invitation to come troll the poor schmuck. Let the regulars kick him around a little first!
ETA:
And there's more! ;)
"A warrior is unlikely to be what Achilles has been misrepresented as via misinterpretation of Homer. I'd opine Achilles and Patroclus were best friends and the semantic way a Greek writer such as Homer had of recording that has been misinterpreted by modern folks from a modern perspective."
Followed by ramblings about how Spartan society made homosexuality compulsory and how "Sparta stands as a historical lesson to the future and a reason not to encourage anything more than basic minimum tolerance as a minority demographic activity, while denying encouragement rather than this mere tolerance."
Yeah, right, whatever.
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Date: 2004-05-23 01:45 pm (UTC)I suppose it saves them the trouble of independent thinking. They get their mental workouts doing gymnastics trying to prove that black really is white.
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Date: 2004-05-23 01:51 pm (UTC)He was doing a lot of mental yoga, certainly, avoiding answering the question about how it was that apparently it's not possible for Achilles to be manly, honourable, soldierly and queer as a three pound note...
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Date: 2004-05-23 03:57 pm (UTC)He needed smackin'. ;)
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Date: 2004-05-24 01:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-24 06:00 am (UTC)