A quote from the thread regarding the movie Troy, over on Our Stargate:
"As far as I am concerned, that [the homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus] is all bs anyway. A flawed interpretation by politically correct scholars. Achilles is an honorable, tough, skilled, soldierly man - one might as well say Worf or Teal'c is a homosexual as say it of Achilles. To my view, that other perspective is the one that tries to change Achilles' friendship and comradeship with Patroclus into something it isn't and wasn't."
How art thou wrong, let me count the ways? ;)
P.S. This is not an invitation to come troll the poor schmuck. Let the regulars kick him around a little first!
ETA:
And there's more! ;)
"A warrior is unlikely to be what Achilles has been misrepresented as via misinterpretation of Homer. I'd opine Achilles and Patroclus were best friends and the semantic way a Greek writer such as Homer had of recording that has been misinterpreted by modern folks from a modern perspective."
Followed by ramblings about how Spartan society made homosexuality compulsory and how "Sparta stands as a historical lesson to the future and a reason not to encourage anything more than basic minimum tolerance as a minority demographic activity, while denying encouragement rather than this mere tolerance."
Yeah, right, whatever.
"As far as I am concerned, that [the homoerotic relationship between Achilles and Patroclus] is all bs anyway. A flawed interpretation by politically correct scholars. Achilles is an honorable, tough, skilled, soldierly man - one might as well say Worf or Teal'c is a homosexual as say it of Achilles. To my view, that other perspective is the one that tries to change Achilles' friendship and comradeship with Patroclus into something it isn't and wasn't."
How art thou wrong, let me count the ways? ;)
P.S. This is not an invitation to come troll the poor schmuck. Let the regulars kick him around a little first!
ETA:
And there's more! ;)
"A warrior is unlikely to be what Achilles has been misrepresented as via misinterpretation of Homer. I'd opine Achilles and Patroclus were best friends and the semantic way a Greek writer such as Homer had of recording that has been misinterpreted by modern folks from a modern perspective."
Followed by ramblings about how Spartan society made homosexuality compulsory and how "Sparta stands as a historical lesson to the future and a reason not to encourage anything more than basic minimum tolerance as a minority demographic activity, while denying encouragement rather than this mere tolerance."
Yeah, right, whatever.
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Date: 2004-05-23 09:55 am (UTC)Keep me informed of proceedings over on that thread, it might provide a little amusement.
Gina
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Date: 2004-05-23 09:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-23 10:06 am (UTC)Gina
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Date: 2004-05-23 12:01 pm (UTC)And not before time, in my opinion...
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Date: 2004-05-23 12:07 pm (UTC)I like nonsensical bigotry, if it chases its tail for long enough it might get dizzy and fall over.
Gina
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Date: 2004-05-23 12:14 pm (UTC)And now apparently I need to go see some PBS documentary that will 'prove' how Teh Gay is so dangerous to civilisation as we know it! ;)
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Date: 2004-05-23 12:40 pm (UTC)Then again, he hasn't gone all biblical yet.
Gina