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From http://www.livejournal.com/users/stewardess_lotr/72903.html (italics my emphasis):

LETTERS
Sunday, September 26, 2004
San Francisco Chronicle

SOAP OPERAS OFFER STRAIGHT WOMEN A BETTER SHOW THAN SHOWTIME'S 'QUEER AS FOLK'

Editor -- While Neva Chonin's comments in "Live! Rude! Girl" (Sept. 12) on the television series "Queer as Folk" were wickedly funny, I must take issue -- affectionately, of course -- with a point or two on women and gay sex. Even as a staunch supporter of parity between the sexes, I find it patently absurd to put straight women's interest in gay sex on a par with the obsession of straight men for girl-on-girl "action." Clearly the majority of women are not seriously aroused by scenes of sex between men. Female sexuality just doesn't work that way. Additionally, Chonin's high praise for the comeliness of the "QaF" cast has me wondering whether we're watching the same program. Judged by the pumped-up "looks-ist" standards of Hollywood, these guys are disappointing at best. In fact, it is the soap opera that fits the straight female libido. The soaps present an almost embarrassing abundance of male pulchritude, and they dish it up in the context of an indulgent kind of storytelling, swollen with intimate character development and "hetero-erotic" plotlines. How can "QaF" compete?

Paul Alley, San Francisco


Yep, you heard it here! Stop it now, ladies, we're doing it all wrong! ;)

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm straight and find m/m action pretty damn arousing. I guess that makes me... erm... part of the minority. But we knew that. :)

E.T.A.- this was first pointed out to me over on the Our Stargate forum where, as fully expected, a newbie has now popped up to make comments about us criticising him for making such a sweeping statement. How dare we expect him to speak from knowledge and/or experience when his view is right and we're all icky perverts obsessed with anal sex? ;)

Date: 2004-09-27 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
We're just a bunch of freaks, you know ;-)

Date: 2004-09-27 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
Yay for us! :)

Date: 2004-09-27 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocent-lex.livejournal.com
Oh yummy icon! Scrummy, yummy and moreish. Er, got any more of that nature? It's fine that I'm asking, since there's only one bloke in the picture. See? Normal female, without deviant sexual urges. At all. But if you have more with two, I'll try to use them as aversion therapy of some kind. Honest.

*cough*

I wonder, perhaps I should ask that nice chap whether it's okay to tie up naked blokes?

Date: 2004-09-29 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
*grin* Well, the only other one I have unfortunately has two guys on it (see above). As long as you promise not be traumatised, or turn into a deviant, I'll use it ;-)

Date: 2004-09-29 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocent-lex.livejournal.com
Oh, that's awfully pretty! Thank you.

Sadly, it seems just one picture isn't working for the aversion therapy. It looks like I'll have to hunt down more. Lots more. They do say if you're going to do a job, you should do it well...

Date: 2004-09-29 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
*snerk* ;-)

Date: 2004-09-27 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katyabaturinsky.livejournal.com
I like that some guy feels qualified to make proclamations about how female sexuality works. Yeah, you tell 'em, bucko. Glad to hear you're going to set us straight. So to speak.

And soap operas? Given the choice between "Days of Our Lives" and a railroad spike through the skull, I'd have to go with the railroad spike, thank you kindly.

Where do they get these people?

Date: 2004-09-27 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
It lives!!!!!111!!! ;)

Date: 2004-09-27 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katyabaturinsky.livejournal.com
Indeed. Although it rarely posts. :)

Date: 2004-09-27 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
Yep, we'd noticed that and it is not of the good. :(

Date: 2004-09-27 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer1973.livejournal.com
Where do they get these people?
Wal-Mart.

Personally, I want to know what Neva Chonin's said.

Date: 2004-09-28 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
It's here (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/09/12/PKGIJ7P68V1.DTL)

Date: 2004-09-28 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mer1973.livejournal.com
Of course, I followed your links after I posted that. It's nice to see someone in the mainstream media acknowledge the appeal, isn't it?

Date: 2004-09-27 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocent-lex.livejournal.com
Am wondering if My Secret Garden has m/m fantasies. Can't remember. Will have to find the book and do intensive research. Immediately. Might skip the fantasies that involve dogs and donkeys, though.

Hmmm... should we tell Mr Alley about the dogs and the donkeys? Or just send him the book and be done with it?

Date: 2004-09-27 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] innocent-lex.livejournal.com
p.s. Is it just me or does "pulchritude" bring to mind the complete opposite of what it actually means?

Date: 2004-09-27 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com
Hmm, one (I assume) straight bloke dictating not only what sort of sex and relationships (straight) women want to watch, but the body-type they should want to see doing it.

Ah well, I'm a dyke, he's not talkig to me ;-)

Gina

Date: 2004-09-28 03:37 am (UTC)
obelix: (MC)
From: [personal profile] obelix
I'm so happy that someone is out there pointing out how to do it right. Gives me an opportunity to do the exact opposite ;-)

I'm straight and I do like m/m action and I don't particularly like the pumped -up look that's so popular in Hollywood right now and I can't stand soap operas...

Guess I'll have to tell Hubby I'm not a "real" woman then ;-)

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