Addendum to my previous post/rant...
Oct. 17th, 2002 10:04 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
graculusWell, it had to happen eventually. I lost my tolerance and posted on the subject of the Golden Age of Fandom - for those not on the list in question, here's my comments so you'll know why I'm jumping up and down over being chargrilled... *g*
This post came out of a thread on betas and editors and why such things are good/bad/unnecessary/evil newfangled nonsense yadda yadda yadda.
My main concern about this kind of topic is that it often seems to be the result of a Golden Age of Fandom view of the world. I don't believe that, way back when, all zines were perfect and all stories wonderful and everyone was nice to one another - I've seen some of those zines and stories and heard the tales of people's behaviour in fandom and it ain't so.
Those of us who've come to fandom since the 'Net was invented are often arbitrarily labelled as a variety of things (mostly negative): we're supposed to care less about characterisation and quality of writing, we're lazy and desperate for feedback, we're thoughtless and impulsive, etc etc. I think that it's only that fandom is so much bigger now, communication is much faster and the morons are less easy to avoid - not that the morons haven't always been with us.
Personally, I'm pretty sick of being labelled this way by default (and the whole nostalgic BS).
And now the flames... *eg*
This post came out of a thread on betas and editors and why such things are good/bad/unnecessary/evil newfangled nonsense yadda yadda yadda.
My main concern about this kind of topic is that it often seems to be the result of a Golden Age of Fandom view of the world. I don't believe that, way back when, all zines were perfect and all stories wonderful and everyone was nice to one another - I've seen some of those zines and stories and heard the tales of people's behaviour in fandom and it ain't so.
Those of us who've come to fandom since the 'Net was invented are often arbitrarily labelled as a variety of things (mostly negative): we're supposed to care less about characterisation and quality of writing, we're lazy and desperate for feedback, we're thoughtless and impulsive, etc etc. I think that it's only that fandom is so much bigger now, communication is much faster and the morons are less easy to avoid - not that the morons haven't always been with us.
Personally, I'm pretty sick of being labelled this way by default (and the whole nostalgic BS).
And now the flames... *eg*
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Date: 2002-10-17 02:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-10-17 02:41 pm (UTC)I'm currently struggling with restraining myself from volunteering for the obligatory 'The Internet is killing fandom' (or however it's phrased this time around...) panel at Eclecticon. Barely.
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Date: 2002-10-17 02:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-10-17 02:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-10-17 02:56 pm (UTC)Er. Assuming Eclecticon is over here...
Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:14 pm (UTC):)
Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:24 pm (UTC)I don't recall Ikea stocking generic martyring materials last time I visited.
Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:33 pm (UTC)FIRE fire fire... ehhhehehehehe fire!
Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:45 pm (UTC)Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:55 pm (UTC)No comment about the lovely Robin Nedwell????
:P
Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 04:57 pm (UTC)Re: Lollards
Date: 2002-10-17 05:01 pm (UTC)Starsky has chest hair???
... Oh wait that's the front of him... sorry, don't usually notice that part :)
Oh go on... you want to!
Date: 2002-10-17 04:15 pm (UTC)Re: Oh go on... you want to!
Date: 2002-10-17 04:22 pm (UTC)Bad enough that I'll be slavering over IK with you, let alone doing a pitbull impression elsewhere.
Re: Oh go on... you want to!
Date: 2002-10-17 05:58 pm (UTC)We are far too dignified to ever do something like that...
(ahhahahahahahah RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Here's hoping that something like coherent words come out of our mouths....